threedegreasles
Posted: February 26th, 2003 | 8 Comments »Miki has been interviewed by an Israeli games site (in Hebrew) about her work on The Getaway, here sale which will be mentioned again here at least once more in the near future.
Looking into the far future, anabolics I see an image of myself, click old and wrinkled on a rocking chair, surrounded by children. They look up at me and ask, “Grampa, tell us about your wild adventures as a heat-seeking beta bunny!” And I reply, “Oh, my sweethearts, those days are long gone. I used to be young and crazy, downloading every shiny 0.2 release, pumping the nightlies, having to vape my Windows install every three months. I eased off after a while – the RSI and blood pressure – but even so, I was still desperate for new toys, hungry to ride the bleeding edge of the Freshmeat wave. Then came the Threedegrees beta…” At that point the prophecy goes a bit blurry because I start shouting and hitting the children and shortly after that I’m Soylent Green.
It’s the fault of the children, you see. In case you’ve missed all the fanfare, ThreeDegrees is Microsoft’s new chat/P2P/music app that came about through the revolutionary process of asking the teenagers at which it’s aimed to help design it. The app lets users organise themselves into social groups (point and clique?). Groups are limited to a ten-member maximum, a bizarrely arbitrary limit that will hopefully be the first victim of the beta programme. Group members can chat, share pictures, play music and “wink” at each other. (“Winking” is a kind of animated emoticon broadcast to all members of the group. Wondering why you never see your teenager these days? He’s probably up in his room, winking.) As you’d expect, it’s all wrapped up in the kind of huge lurid skinnable UI that will have Alan Cooper wandering around the Redmond campus with a rifle.
The Threedegrees beta went live a few hours ago and I, the mad, risk-loving fool, hurried for this new plaything — pausing only to marvel at the “Gosh We’re Wacky!” section, blessed with all the carefree embarrassment skills of the middle-aged uncle.
This screencap from the installer should tell you all you need to know:
(No, I didn’t draw those scrawls onto the image. It really does look like that.)
I don’t know which of the scenarios I’m imagining is worse: The one where a crazed developer with MS Paint gets that past QA, or the one where the design team achieves group consensus to prove they’re the gang that’s down with the kids.
As you can see, the kids have to be down with installing a metric arseload of supporting extras before they can get jiggy with the winking action. This includes MSN Messenger 5.0 and the MS Black Ops P2P Infiltrator. I had a brief bout of swearing when MSNIM 5 started up because it was clearly ignoring my preference to hide the never-used info tabs on the left. Investigation showed I was wrong; it hadn’t so much ignored my preference as removed the option entirely. Clearly, being able to view Expedia travel deals in a 100-pixel-wide buddy list is too important a feature to ever be turned off. Dammit, if you can’t get stock price alerts, the terrorists have already won! Also, the banner slot at the bottom was refusing to budge, proudly displaying an ad telling me to use the app that was displaying it.
It’s part of a worrying trend MS have been displaying recently that I’ll call (for want of something wittier) feature-creep-away. Version 7.0 of Windows Media Player (a.k.a The Huge Blue Useless One) removed the ability to install .mov support. Now the latest version has removed streaming MP3 and AVI support (i.e. play during download). The lockdown has started. It’s more than just “Trusted Computing”; they’re trying to be Apple ’90.
Anyway, now that ThreeDegrees is finally installed, I can have a play. Except I can’t, because MSN IM can’t see the Internet. Oops, neither can Internet Explorer. The problem persists after a reboot. Most apps (including Mozilla and Trillian, thankfully) can browse quite happily, but those that use some magic MS voodoo instead of normal DNS lookups are scuppered. Most irritatingly, this group includes Soulseek. (Using IP addresses in MSIE seems to work fine) A wander through the innards of XP shows that the Undergound MS P2P so-beta-it’s-alpha has installed all kinds of IPv6 randomness into Services including a firewall and a “6to4 translator”. I turn all of them off, but to no avail. I’m glad that MS is building a road to the future, but I am now one with the tarmac. Still, it could be worse.
If this gets fixed, someone let me know. I want to check ThreeDegrees out so I can pretend to be Clay and make wise, chin-stroking pronouncements about the social networks young people create. Also, I’d quite like to be able to use MSIE again. Probably. In the meantime, I’m joining the eight-year-olds swapping warez and pr0n on IRC. Seeya!
UPDATE: The headline on the front page of threedegrees.com reads: “For the people, by the People.
Our community is built upon our art, expressions, and individuality.” Yeah, and your Shared Source promotes innovation and is freer than the GPL. Oh, just fuck off!
FURTHER UPDATE: The adventure continues here.
Following up from viagra here you haven’t read it yet? Loser.”>yesterday: A large number of people seem to have linked to my piece, site which is nice, rubella though most of them referred to it as a “review”, which is a little scary, as I never got the software in question to run. I should stress that, as superbly biting as the piece is, I did walk knowingly into a highly-flammable beta situation and thus deserve everything I got, no matter how candy-coated and teenager-enticing that situation was. Plus, some people think that I was accusing the required P2P patch of being spyware. I don’t think it is any such thing, though the bizarre trip into Microsoft’s beta-programme underbelly that the installer gives you did make me feel like one of the kids in The Goonies.
On the other hand, there really is no excuse for an install screen that looks like that, nor for Windows Media Player to lose important features with every new version (Anil pointed out the reason behind the loss of .mov support, but that doesn’t excuse the more recent stuff), nor for the MSN 5 tabs thing. Having said that, m’colleague Tim pointed out that you can turn the tabs off – look!
Can you see it? And can you see where in the Options tabs it’s buried? And, most importantly, does the name of the preference in question make any sense at all?
<Yoz> I just don't understand. It makes no sense.
<Yoz> The privacy settings are on a per-user basis anyway.
<Tim> Well, tabs contain personal info, I suppose - they have MS Money support and all that shite. So if you're using a shared computer, you might not want it visible. But then you'd only get that if you logged in. So it makes no sense.
<Yoz> Exactly.
<Tim> MSN now has quite a big InstallDance procedure
<Tim>
[X] Don't do the stupid faces
[X] Get rid of the stupid faces toolbar
[X] Turn that bloody side panel off
[X] Wiggle random privacy settings
[X] Turn off the 'randomly launch a fucking browser window whenever I log on' feature.
[X] etc
<Tim>
[X] Beat MSNIM design panel to death with a black rubber cock
Looking back on it, it’s suddenly occurred to me that it may have happened like this:
MS Pointy-Haired Boss (force of evil): Everyone must have tabs! Don’t let them turn the tabs off! Stock quotes! Ads! Expedia deals! Yummy!
MSNIM Team (force of good… relatively, anyway): But we like the window going nice and narrow! If you have tabs it’s too wide and…
PHB: Tabs for everyone!
Team: But…
PHB: TABS TABS TABS TABS TABS!
Team (sudden moment of inspiration): PRIVACY!
PHB: Huh?
Team (hurriedly winging it): Tabs are lovely and gorgeous and contain lots of useful stuff including gorgeous furry personalised alerts which are individual to the user and may contain private information so those users should be able to turn the tabs off to prevent other people seeing private stuff!
PHB: Eh?
Team: Privacy is important! Security! Remember? We’re meant to do lots of that security and privacy stuff!
PHB: But… tabs…
Team: We’ll take away the easy right-click tab removal and put a tickbox in the Privacy section of Options. No one will ever find it, but our asses are covered.
PHB: Oh, good. Okay. Whatever. Hey, why can’t I browse the Internet any more?
Oh, and:
<Tim> Spookily, the 3 Degrees did a song called "Can't You See What You're Doing to Me"
<Tim> Seems appropriate
<Tim> although "When Will I See You Again" seems to fit your IPv6 problems better
The happy ending at the end of all this is that my networking problems have been solved; I uninstalled the IPv6 stuff (like what Jeremy said in the comments) and everything was fine again. MSN and Threedegrees are now able to run. The problem I face now is this: How the hell am I meant to test this thing given that, after yesterday, I can’t persuade any of my friends to install it?
I have a feeling that “But…tabs…” may have to become something of a catch-phrase 🙂
Microsoft’s Three Degrees
Microsoft’s Three Degrees
What is the worlds fixation with tabs? The entire Mac OS X using community seemed to go mental because Safari didn’t have tabs and has gone mental again because a leaked beta shows it may have.
Tabs eat real estate – they are just bad.
Thursday morning
Blah blah new iPod rumours Via Brad, Vaguely Right and D-squared digest, the latter of which pokes fun at…
But Neil…Tabs!
Neil, once you have tabs you never go back (for browsing anyway). I got 5 open now and I middle click (open window in new tab) more then I left click.
Middle button? Ahhh…. you aren’t using the one true pointing device… a Mac mouse 🙂
Tried tabs, don’t like ’em. Take up vertical real estate which raises the ‘fold’.
Thankfully they are likely to be optional in Safari. If not, time to use a different browser (or make enough noise for Apple to pay attention).
Mmmmm. Tabs.
I like tabs because I can have 30 browser ‘windows’ (tabs) open at once and they only actually sit inside three *real* browser windows and I can bookmark all the tabs in a window as one bookmark and…
Need I go on?
I think it is a personal preference.
The real estate thing is a valid issue, but I got over that by moving my dock to the left of the screen and not the bottom.
BTW, I use Chimera Navigator (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/chimera/). Tabbed browsing it purely optional and configurable in CN and should be in Safari as well. I may move to using Safari if the next stable release still has optional tabbed browsing…